You Won’t Believe How Many Books This 24 Year Old Has Sold


In Episode #310 Nathan interviews Jake Ducey. Jake’s 24 years old and he’s already written three books with Penguin Random House. Jake’s making money from his books – but he’s out to make a difference. Last year he raised 345,000 pounds of food for homeless people off the back of his book tour. Tune in to hear Nathan and Jake talk self-publishing, how to launch your writing career, and why patience is everything.



iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Soundcloud, How to Subscribe

Famous 5:

  • Favorite Book? – Pitch Anything
  • What CEO do you follow? — Oren Klaff
  • Favorite online tool? —Youtube
  • Do you get 8 hours of sleep?— Pretty close
  • If you could let your 20 year old self know one thing, what would it be?—Patience

Time Stamped Show Notes:

  • 01:11 – Nathan’s introduction
  • 01:45 – Welcoming Jake to the show
  • 02:00 – Jake wrote a book not expecting to make money from it
  • 02:55 – Wrote his first book, Into the Wind, aged 19
  • 04:00 – Self-published; have now sold 30k copies
  • 05:00 – Made around $100k from that book alone
  • 05:40 – Got a literary agent because he wanted someone with experience and a mentor
  • 06:30 – Founded in 2012 and had only $200 topline revenue
  • 06:25 – Agent’s name is Bill Gladstone at Waterside Productions
  • 06:50 – “I would recommend going through Amazon if you’re self-publishing”
  • 07:35 – Next book, The Purpose Principles, was published by Penguin Random House
  • 08:50 – Had an advance on the contract – around $30k
  • 09:36 – Jake was starting to pick up momentum by this point
  • 10:03 – “I want to influence people’s lives”
  • 11:00 – Took Jake around 4 months to write his 60,000-word book
  • 12:30 – “It’s nice to write a book with support and an editor and help”
  • 13:37 – Having a publisher is also a credibility stamp for speaking engagements
  • 14:00 – Jake mostly makes money through speaking engagements
  • 15:13 – Hired Ryan Holiday for book launch strategy sessions
  • 16:05 – The next book, Profit From Happiness, will be published in June 2016
  • 17:40 – Plans to give away his book to underprivileged youth: for every book that’s bought, he’ll donate one
  • 19:10 – Jake hopes to expand internationally and keep writing books
  • 20:00 – Connect with Jake on Facebook
  • 21:40 – The Famous Five

3 Key Points:

  1. Don’t be afraid to self-publish. Publishing houses are more likely to pick you up if you’ve already had some success.
  2. Profit has to intertwine with service and fulfilment. Make sure you’re helping other people.
  3. Most people overestimate what they can accomplish in a year and underestimate what they can accomplish in a decade. Be patient.

Resources Mentioned:

  • Host Gator – The site Nathan uses to buy his domain names and hosting for cheapest price possible.
  • Freshbooks – The site Nathan uses to manage his invoices and accounts.
  • Leadpages  – The drag and drop tool Nathan uses to quickly create his webinar landing pages which convert at 35%+
  • Audible – Nathan uses Audible when he’s driving from Austin to San Antonio (1.5 hour drive) to listen to audio books.
  • Show Notes provided by Mallard Creatives